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11:42 pm: Rant on loyalty

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From:[info]l-clausewitz.livejournal.com
Date:June 2nd, 2010 01:48 pm (UTC)
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It is interesting to see alternatives to the traditional idea of loyalty in fantasy- which IMHO are remnants from the ideal (not idea) of Medieval chivalry that seems to plague fantasy.

Heh. Heh. Not a particularly realistic idea of medieval "chivalry" either. Writers of medieval-esque fantasy really should read more about Henry II, his wife, and his sons (including Richard the Lionheart and John Lackland)--one of the most dysfunctional families ever. Or "the lord of my lord is not my lord," a thoroughly chivalric idea very popular with nobles who wanted to gather supporters for a revolt against their feudal superiors. Come to think of it, I think I've rambled about that in the medieval fantasy with medieval intensity (http://l-clausewitz.livejournal.com/122481.html) rant a long time ago.
From:[info]reiknight
Date:June 4th, 2010 06:04 am (UTC)
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: It is interesting to see alternatives to the traditional idea of loyalty in fantasy- which IMHO are remnants from the ideal (not idea) of Medieval chivalry that seems to plague fantasy.
Perhaps it might be more accurate to call it "remnants from the romantic ideal" more than anything else. Consider it amended. Again, IMHO, it's all about the romance, not the reality in fantasy. I prefer the reality, myself. :)
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